Official talk:Imprudence Manifesto


 * Please replace the 2nd paragraph of the manifesto, which is:


 * There have been a great many manifestos published over the ages, by various groups and parties, each with their own philosophies and objectives. Of these countless manifestos, a very small number have achieved infamy (and those for good reason). Perhaps most notable among those harmful manifestos is the Communist Manifesto of Karl Marx, whose philosophy inspired an era of violent upheaval and oppressive dictatorship, the effects of which we still feel today.


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 * There have been a great many manifestos published over the ages, by various groups and parties, each with their own philosophies and objectives. Of these countless manifestos, a very small number have achieved either fame or infamy, and have gained a place in the record of history.


 * A statement of someone's personal view of international politics is not appropriate for the Imprudence Manifesto.
 * Morgaine 15:41, 22 January 2009 (UTC)


 * That is not a statement of personal politics, but of historical fact. The Communist Manifesto sticks out like a sore thumb when many people hear the word "manifesto", and I'm not going to pretend it doesn't, or to resort to evasive wording to vaguely hint at the fact. The preface exists entirely to make clear that the Imprudence Manifesto bears no meaningful relation to the Communist Manifesto, aside from them both being examples of manifestos. -- Jacek Antonelli 17:43, 22 January 2009 (UTC)
 * I'm very glad to hear to hear that they have no relationship. Indeed, Imprudence's manifesto has no relationship with any other well-known manifesto whatsoever.  So if that's what you're trying to say, then say it.  Don't go off on a political tangent with one specific negative example just so that you can let off steam about your personal politics.
 * That line adds nothing at all relevant to the manifesto, and you know that very well.
 * Every single political party in every election has a manifesto. So what?  Does that mean that we have to disclaim any relationship to them?  Clearly not, so finding that political line here is just utterly bizarre.  Whatever next?  Shall we add to our description of plugins, "This facility is not related to Bush's support of torture."?
 * If you must add an example of a specific well-known manifesto, make it a positive one at least, and non-political. There is no shortage of good uplifting examples if needed.
 * In reality though, a specific example is just silly and distracting, since it's obvious to any moderately sane reader that Imprudence's manifesto bears no relationship to any political one. Nor indeed to any other manifesto at all.
 * Morgaine 20:28, 22 January 2009 (UTC)

-- Jacek Antonelli 00:22, 31 January 2009 (UTC)
 * After further consideration, I've revised the preface to condense it and eliminate the unnecessary and controversial portions thereof.